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Make AlmaLinux.org more privacy friendly #409
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This would prevent us from turning the data into a geographic heatmap would it not? I don't think we should do this. This data is relevant for things like determining what areas we may need more mirrors, where we should focus translation efforts to serve as many users as possible, and even so far as things like what local laws should we be aware of and try to respect (with GDPR/cookie consent being the whole start of this GH issue).
I'm all for this. Cookie popups are stupidly annoying so if we can avoid them by avoiding cookies in the first place all the better. If there's a perceived improvement in privacy from it then it's a further win.
Seems fine to me.
What is the raw data you're referring to? Does Matomo log the raw requests?
This seems counterproductive and I don't think it should be deleted.
See the first response about this above.
100% agree, of course. |
I would need to double-check, but I don't believe so. It would anonymize a few bytes of the IP and use the location on the anonymized IP instead of the raw IP, which should be sufficient for those needs. Suppose you're referring to analytics/logs from things like our mirrors. In that case, there will be a separate issue in the appropriate repository once we kickstart the privacy policy to hash that out.
https://matomo.org/guide/apis/raw-data/
Counterproductive to what? This issue aims to increase privacy & transparency on the data we collect and how long we collect it for. Is this data something we need to hang onto forever? Is there a point where it becomes less useful for marketing purposes (EX, a year, two years, etc)? If the aggregated reports are based of the anonymized data (after we make some changes), it's less important. It's worth discussing further. |
So, to clarify one thing, we do actually have a privacy policy, but it's in strong need of updating.
As long as we can still get the information we need to serve our community out of it, I'm fine with anonymizing. ie: does is shift from "somewhere in Germany to somewhere in Europe"? or does it shift from "Somewhere in Berlin to somewhere in Germany"? The former is too much loss IMO. The later would be fine.
I'm fine with deleting raw data. I'd say 180 to be safe for now, and then we discuss reducing it in a year, but that's because data once deleted can't be recovered.
If it's already been anonymized I'm not sure how it would be increasing privacy to delete aggregated reports. Even if we opt to not anonymize the collected data, aggregated reports are intentionally abstracted already. I'd say we revisit this and the cookie consent discussion once we've decided and tested what adjusting the original settings would ultimately do. So, to restate, I think this is where we should go from here: Adjust the Matomo settings thusly: Proposed changes: Anonymize Visitors' IP addresses
IP Addresses
Privacy policy
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Change the following Matomo settings to increase the privacy of visitors by restricting & anonymizing the data we collect
Proposed changes:
Cookie consent
While they're annoying, we should display a cookie consent banner if we are setting any cookies (EX, Matomo [1]). We should consider if we want this to be a global change or only be displayed for individuals in countries with GDPR, etc).
We can utilize some of Matomos' built-in functionality for this, as well as instructions using other consent managers: https://developer.matomo.org/guides/tracking-consent.
It is worth noting that if we implement the anonymization changes proposed above, French visitors don't need to be offered a tracking consent popup: https://matomo.org/faq/how-to/how-do-i-configure-matomo-without-tracking-consent-for-french-visitors-cnil-exemption/
[1] We need to verify what cookies are being set. We need to re-evaluate this if we opt to set
Force tracking without cookies
Create a privacy policy & tell users exactly what data is collected and how it is utilized
The scope of this is beyond just AlmaLinux.org, but this is a good starting point. Here is a list of data Matomo collects by default (which would be far less if we implement the changes above).
https://developer.matomo.org/guides/tracking-consent
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