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388: Add support for musig
in descriptor templates
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@bigspider thanks for the ping. Only one initial question before I review more thoroughly - why do we not allow derivation inside the musig expression KP elements, subject to the same rules as BIP-0390? |
I did indeed suggest removing that from descriptors as well, and I don't know of use cases that justify the (substantial) added complexity for signers. It is much more inefficient in practice (especially for a transaction with many inputs coming from the same account, since the result of the key aggregation can be cached for all the inputs/change outputs, instead of repeating it each time with different keys). Finally, it breaks the |
I added a sentence explicitly mentioning that the same key index can't be repeated inside |
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A few minor comments.
Co-authored-by: Jon Atack <jon@atack.com>
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* (06 Nov 2024) Added support for <tt>musig</tt> key placeholders in descriptor templates | ||
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The BIP formatting rules prescribe that the document starts with the preamble. May I suggest that you introduce a Change Log section in the style of BIP 327 or BIP 352 toward the end of the document where you incorporate this note?
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@murchandamus yes, see #1697 (comment)
@bigspider fwiw a suggested order at #1691 (comment)
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Good suggestion, done in eec1054.
This is true but only applies if the feature is used. Support for it could be optional for example; wallets are free to limit the format and type of templates they support.
IIUC this only requires that any wildcards in the musig keys to aggregate must be derived at the same index as other keys when a wildcard is present, which is the same restriction as any wildcards in any key expression elsewhere. IOW, the entire expression must be derivable with a single value for all wildcards, whether inside musig() or elsewhere. Perhaps I'm failing to grok your meaning here, or perhaps things would be clearer if I worked through implementing support for this extension personally.
You raise reasonable points in the linked mail IMO. I can see that there may be a desire to not limit future use-cases, and I can also see that potentially allowing a mixture of fixed and derived keys to aggregate may have some uses (assuming its safe to do so). It is disappointing that (AFAICS) you did not receive a reply. My concern here is that it appears on the descriptor side we have a technical decision with no clear rationale/documented justification, while on the descriptor template side there is an opposing technical decision with rationale but that may limit future interop or valuable use-cases. I would prefer to have these two sides aligned, or at least the rationale for differing be explicit on both side (i.e. a reply to the points you raised on the record somewhere). |
If the language supports it, software wallet developers will use it; performance will probably be ok on their test transactions spending 1 UTXO; then one of their users who is trying to consolidate 50 UTXOs will discover it's incredibly slow, complain to the vendor, and there will be no way to fix it at that point. To make a stronger case on the stark difference in performance: for a n-of-n multisig and a transaction spending t inputs
In other words, aggregate-and-derive doesn't cost significantly more than normal multisigs in hardware signer's performance once you have a few UTXOs (apart from needing 2 rounds, of course), while the penalty cost of derive-and-aggregate is enormous. BIP32 derivations are currently the biggest performance bottleneck in the Ledger bitcoin app, when using multi-user policies. Therefore, by not supporting it, I expect it will result in more efficient implementations, less debugging, less support tickets, and no loss of functionality.
Even just parsing a descriptor template supporting both versions becomes a lot harder. This is more or less what a key expression in my AST looks like: typedef struct {
uint32_t num_first; // NUM_a of /<NUM_a,NUM_b>/*
uint32_t num_second; // NUM_b of /<NUM_a,NUM_b>/*
KeyExpressionType type;
union {
// type == 0
struct {
int16_t key_index; // index of the key
} k;
// type == 1
struct {
rptr_musig_aggr_key_info_t musig_info;
} m;
};
} policy_node_keyexpr_t; They are very simple objects, derivations can only go in one place, and the grammar to describe them is context-free (so parsing for them is based on a trivial lookahead on the next one or few characters).
I understand the concern, and it is my desire to keep wallet policies as aligned as possible in order to minimize friction. However, wallet policies are not representing the same thing as descriptors:
Therefore, wallet policies do not need to be as general as descriptors. It is fine if they are opinionated and much more structured - in fact, this makes them more useful, by implicitly leading wallet developers to only use sane descriptors. |
@bigspider Thanks for the detailed response. Note that as stated I don't disagree with your points on performance (original or as further fleshed out here), except to note that we already have an extension for non-bip44-style policies which e.g. Ledger doesn't support. However, on reflection I think there is nothing here that prevents derivation-before-aggregation being supported later, so this is not a blocker.
Somewhat OT, but you should implement the libwally optimization to avoid computing the parent fingerprint (a) when it is not needed at all (saves a hash160 per derivation) and (b) when deriving a path (only the final derived key may need the fingerprint, the intermediate steps do not). In your impl,
Agreed the parsing gets more difficult. I will likely try adding support for this in wally to see how true that is for different impls.
Disagree with the the sane moniker but I accept/agree with this statement otherwise. I will final review and ack next week when I get a chance to compare implementing these changes with the PR contents, thanks. |
I actually had this implemented few months ago but ended up not merging it because the performance impact is negligible for our implementation. It turns out that almost the entire cost of |
This required a few changes in the grammar describing descriptor templates: the single symbols
KP
is no longer enough to cleanly represent the syntax. Therefore, it's now replaced to a more fine-grained symbol hierarchy:KEY
, mapping 1-on-1 toKEY
expressions of descriptorsKP
, key placeholders, that represent a single root key, or an aggregate musig key; regardless of the nature of the key, key placeholders are what is followed by/**
or/<M;N>/*
.KI
, key index, the actual "pointer" to the key information vector.While the validity checks to avoid pubkey reuse before this change was feasible by looking at all the
@i
expressions in the descriptor template, it is now at the level of the KEY expressions, by comparing their key placeholders.This means that the specs do not prevent having
@i
somewhere andmusig(@i,...)
elsewhere (which does not cause pubkey reuse in the actual scripts).Note that there is no breaking change with the previous specs, just a more fine-grained grammar in order to keep everything working in the presence of
musig
.